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HELP stop 4 proposed roundabouts on 601 in Yadkinville!!!!

hogrider42

Posted 3:10 pm, 08/09/2018

yadkindogs....bless your simple minded ways and get used to the idea of traffic circles taking the place of traffic signals


the traffic circle in jonesville does exactly what it was put in for and that was to help with traffic flow in and out of PVH and prevent traffic backup at the light.

pretty sure the reason for the circles in yadkinville wasn't because of speeding like simple minds like to think but from accidents happening at these intersections. you need to go talk to your local government and ask to see all the records involving this project....none of them voted against them and all where for it.

there will be 5 not 4 not 3 not 2 not even 1 but 5 before it's all over with....get used to it

yadkindogs

Posted 2:40 pm, 08/09/2018

hogrider,

The one and only traffic circle in Jonesville doesn't cause backups because there is LITTLE traffic there in a town of 2,266 people and NO major intersections such as HWY601 with HWY421. The volume of traffic is completely different.

That's like comparing your brain to Einstein's. Completely different scope and scale.

And since you can't count... there are 4 (not 1, not 2, not 3, but FOUR) traffic circles planned basically ALL RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER. that is COMPLETELY different to the lonely seldom-travelled circle in Jonesville. It will look like this: 0-0------0-0 within a 2-mile corridor. COMPLETE stupidity to think traffic circles will work with everything already there.

And these are the same people who thought more traffic would go to Family Dollar than Food Lion??? So they make a "right turn only" lane for half a mile, causing complete jams with people turning left into Food Lion???

If the goal were to simply slow traffic down, they could just INCREASE patrols and actually generate much revenue for the town until people slowed down. Per the DOT and Jonesville's "master plan" at the link below, traffic circles are placed at intersections to reduce vehicle speeds by narrowing turning radii and the travel lane.

Again, a COMPLETELY wrong reason to justify 4 back-to-back circles on the most heavily traveled non-interstate road in the COUNTY.

To be honest, there really isn't a speeding problem with that stretch. Just the morons trying to turn left at the busiest times of the day. Solve the problem by preventing left turns during rush/peak hours. This approach has worked for Chicago, New York, Miami, Los Angeles, Dallas, Atlanta, Houston, Seattle, and EVERY major city.

Traffic circles aren't being installed in any of these cities now because they are NOT proper solutions. They are only being sold to DOT's in sparsely populated regions such as NC.




https://www.google.c...C&url= https%3A%2F%2Fconnect.ncdot.gov%2Fmunicipalities%2FPlanningGrants%2FDocuments%2FJonesville%2520Ped%2520Plan.pdf&usg=AOvVaw0trZ5cOZYnTfs2TN_9L3KM

hogrider42

Posted 10:48 am, 07/31/2018

yadkindogs....you will have to live with them or move because the traffic circles will be built and gas will continue to be built...you will just add to the problem if you ride in them multi times and the one in jonesville don't back traffic up. sounds like you just hate change but it time to move forward....there is color tv now

yadkindogs

Posted 9:57 am, 07/31/2018

You say "signals backs up traffic during peak times and that's a fact"

That applies to ANY intersection, whether 4-way or round. So your circle will also back up traffic and that's a FACT as well. These circles will be horribly jammed during peak periods, period.

So sorry you can't wait the horribly long 5 minutes at a light. So you think UNIFI trucks which navigate that stretch will not impact traffic? Logging trucks? Other regular 53' semi's? Food service semi's?

And no, as long as you are obeying traffic laws, you will NOT get any kind of ticket. There are ZERO laws stating you can't drive multiple times along any particular stretch of roadway (duh). Well, unless you are stalking someone (d'OH!)

I do not have to "get used to it" just because you think so. That's the mentality that's run this country into the ground. People just "get used to" stupid laws, lying politicians, thieving banks, con-men, rising taxes, increased gas prices, and NCDOT traffic circles.

hogrider42

Posted 3:06 pm, 07/30/2018

signals backs up traffic during peak times and that's a fact....just get used to the circles and the one to come after the first 4...enjoy or avoid....as for not getting a ticket for riding around the circle several times, try it and see how many tickets you get ...you're fighting a loosing war here....it's going to happen and nothing you can do to stop it

yadkindogs

Posted 3:33 pm, 07/26/2018

You can't get a ticket for driving the speed limit or within 5 miles less.

And the speed limit will likely go down to 25 on that whole stretch of 601. Have fun with that, Yadkinville drivers!

So the "clogging" you are referring to is a property of these abominations called traffic circles.

And if people like you learned how to turn left, there would be no need of these monstrosities. You need these circles because it forces you to only have to deal with RIGHT-hand turns, as LEFT turns completely clog your brain.

They are no faster than lights, especially during high-volume times of the day. That is a fact. The ONLY thing they do is reduce high-speed or major collisions.... THAT is their only purpose.

And since we have dozens of those every week along 601, then I suppose circles are OK. But we DON'T so they are NOT ok.

hogrider42

Posted 2:10 pm, 07/26/2018

yadkindogs...just give it up and deal with the roundabouts that will be placed on 601 through yadkinville. they are better than signals. if you decide drive too slowly and clog traffic up you can get a ticket, go to court and pay the fine and start over again until you learn how to properly drive in them...the construction of them will be the only real bad situation for the town but will make travel in yadkinville getting in and out of places much better

yadkindogs

Posted 3:39 pm, 07/25/2018

Just to clarify:

§ 20-155. Right-of-way.

(a) When two vehicles approach or enter an intersection from different highways at approximately the same time, the driver of the vehicle on the left shall yield the right-of-way to the vehicle on the right.

(b) The driver of a vehicle intending to turn to the left within an intersection or into an alley, private road, or driveway shall yield the right-of-way to any vehicle approaching from the opposite direction which is within the intersection or so close as to constitute an immediate hazard.

(c) The driver of any vehicle upon a highway within a business or residence district shall yield the right-of-way to a pedestrian crossing such highway within any clearly marked crosswalk, or any regular pedestrian crossing included in the prolongation of the lateral boundary lines of the adjacent sidewalk at the end of a block, except at intersections where the movement of traffic is being regulated by traffic officers or traffic direction devices.

(d) The driver of any vehicle approaching but not having entered a traffic circle shall yield the right-of-way to a vehicle already within such traffic circle. (1937, c. 407, s. 117; 1949, c. 1016, s. 2; 1955, c. 913, ss. 6, 7; 1967, c. 1053; 1973, c. 1330, s. 20.)


Traffic circles are mentioned nowhere else in all the 1,000 pages of the general statutes. And § 20-156, Exceptions to the right-of-way rule, mentions nothing about traffic circles (which are specifically mentioned in the prior statute 156 is clarifying) so there are NO exceptions to right-of-way in a traffic circle. Once you are in the circle, YOU OWN THE ROAD ;)

So when y'all are in these circles, go ahead and drive around a few times slowly, so you can take in all the wonderful Yadkinville scenery and see all the businesses which you can visit.

yadkindogs

Posted 7:55 pm, 07/22/2018

hogrider, I didn't say to go in and out... I said to remain in the circle for at least 4 passes before exiting.

Change for the sake of change is stupid. And you can't fix stupid I guess...

There is NO significant reason for these. NO good excuse to put them in. In 12 years, driving that strip multiple times daily, I've never had to wait long to turn left. And if traffic was too hectic, I'll go right and do an alternate route. Doesn't take much brain power to figure that out.

So we ruin that entire strip because a few can't drive?

And by law, any vehicle in the circle already... has the right of way automatically.... by default, over ANY other vehicle including an emergency one, REGARDLESS if their lights are on. And there is no law preventing anyone from driving within the circle for multiple go-arounds. I'll be sure to spend an extra 5 minutes in each one, circling multiple times before exiting. Just because change is good as you say, and it's thus good to change how one drives in these circles if one can't change how to drive normally.

smalltownman

Posted 6:40 pm, 07/21/2018

Roundabouts are one thing, but why does the DOT feel the need to build FOUR in addition to medians stretching the entire length of 601??

hogrider42

Posted 10:41 am, 07/16/2018

that's a good thing to do is clog them up with cars in and out and going slow....the reason people have wrecks in them is because they don't know how to use them and or they don't know how to drive in the first place...they will work but everyone needs to stop fighting change because they will be built and after that they won't be taken out

My Statement

Posted 9:13 am, 07/16/2018

yadkindogs Thanks for explaining everything so much better than I could.

yadkindogs

Posted 9:39 am, 07/15/2018

So we completely destroy that entire strip and in inconvenience thousands of drivers, and create an UGLY blight of CONCRETE everywhere just because a few people can't turn left or have enough sense to use alternate exit pathways? Or don't have the patience to WAIT for an opening in traffic??? Sheer lunacy and complete waste of my hard-earned taxpayer money.

Maybe they WANT to destroy that portion of 601 so whoever owns the now-prime acreage to the north can make millions on new development? Anyone check who owns that land and see if there is a connection with the board?

Either way if they put these traffic circles in, I urge everyone opposed to do these two things whenever they enter a circle:
1 - drive at speed limit or 5mph below
2- make three complete circles before leaving the thing

If we all work together we can clog these stupid things.

I have driven that stretch at least 4 and up to a dozen times daily for 12 years, mostly from 8am to 7pm. I've never waited more than 5 minutes to turn left in either direction or go north from 421.

Also for those driving the circles, be prepared for an increase in minor collisions. Statistics show higher collisions with traffic circles.

These circles and barrier are JUST COMPLETELY STUPID. way to waste money guys!

hogrider42

Posted 9:27 am, 07/11/2018

The super street will work well in yadkinville, i don't go to the mcdonald's nor the fish house due to the problem turning back up 601 to head back towards my house....if i have to go there i always turn right out and then turn around at a store on the left so i can get back out....nothing but good can come from the super street....change is good

My Statement

Posted 5:46 pm, 07/10/2018

http://www.yadkincountync.g.../Item/2505
Read page 1, 2 Public Comments section of the Commissioners mtg.

yadkindogs

Posted 11:13 am, 06/25/2018

PLEASE support this petition to STOP the roundabouts in Yadkinville.

Send to anyone. They do not have to live in Yadkinville.

smalltownman

Posted 8:51 am, 06/24/2018

I have also learned that none of the town commissioners had any opposition to the DOT plan!

edge

Posted 2:23 pm, 06/22/2018

figures that the morons who approved this don't actually LIVE in the area or DRIVE it daily to see how it will completely destroy that entire area.

when there are no alternate, parallel routes, it has been PROVEN with all kinds of data that YOU DO NOT BUILD ANY CIRCLES OR PUT MEDIANS on the only corridor of traffic.

INSTEAD, you BUILD ALTERNATE CORRIDORS FIRST.

so when are your property taxes going to go up to pay for this fiasco of circles and walls?

Someone mentioned all that was needed was simple guardrail barriers at KEY points, and SIGNAGE that RESTRICTS ALL LEFT TURNS during rush hour. That was genius, and cost what.... a few thousand at most?

I hope everyone attends that meeting and lets them know how stupid this project is, that there is no reason for it, and that other/cheaper/better solutions are there and should be tried FIRST.

And please, for God's sake, vote EVERY ONE of these commissioners OUT OF OFFICE. And write to the gov'nor to control his DOT....

smalltownman

Posted 5:21 pm, 06/21/2018

Hogrider, either or would be alright, I suppose; BUT the DOT has approved BOTH to be installed from Lee St. to Hwy 421. Little good it did to have a community meeting about the proposed design.

hogrider42

Posted 4:02 pm, 05/30/2018

I love the idea of the traffic circle or roundabouts on 601 in yadkinville and the no left turns and all rights, I've been through there and a lot of people in that town don't really need to be driving in traffic

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