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Income Inequality

lightningkat

Posted 10:46 am, 06/08/2014

Btw fiesta, what about those with the degrees but have no experience. I made good money at Chathams. Got laid off when they shut most everything down. I got a degree in accounting. Made top scores in my class. Yet every job I applied for either wanted experience or bachlors. I looked for over a year before I found the fastfood job I have now and I only got it due to a friend being the hiring manager because I was over qualified. I am now the sole support for my 3 kids. When I was married the hubby could take care of the dr appts and running since he worked from home. Now it's up to me to plan and work dr visitsin around school and work which is not easy with special needs kids. Between my own health issues and trying to take care of my kids, I really don't want to add the stress of a management position. Was the manager of hardee's for 5 yrs so I know it's a headache. I'm still job huntingand eventually I hope to have a better job. Most likely it will be out of state since one of my current managers says she will hunt me down and kill me if I quit. Joking maybe but still. I just want to get the hello out of nc.

lightningkat

Posted 10:16 am, 06/08/2014

150 is way too high. I have never work at a fast food place that had more than 40 people working there at a time including the management. The only way I could see mcds having 150 employees is if each of them only got maybe 10-20 hrs a week.

underdog2

Posted 8:59 am, 06/08/2014

LOL, where did you come up with 150 employees? Try again.

fiesta pantalones

Posted 7:32 am, 06/08/2014

$50,000 times 52 weeks equal $2.6 million per year. $2.6 million divided by 150 employees is $17,333 per employee per year. That is what they bring in per employee. Now how much of that $17,333 per year (average) should go back to each employee? Full time minimum wage is around $15,000. This is simple math people. If each employee made $15 and worked an average of 25 hours per week the busy restaurants would lose $6500 per week and everyone would be out of a job and the owner out **** just because of payroll.

Should the owner make nothing even though they are risking **** of their own money to start the business? Also add the fact the owners have to pay power, phone, insurance, the product costs, etc. Payroll isn't the only expense.

The problem isn't pay. People get paid what they are worth. Fast food is easy work in air conditioned buildings being done increasingly by adults with low personal drive. Minimum wage jobs are for teenagers to get their start in the working world. It isn't a career. If you are lazy enough to try to make it a career you don't deserve more than minimum wage. It isn't the owners fault. There are plenty of construction companies hiring men for double that with benefits with no experience. If you make minimum wage the government will pay for you to go to college, learn a skill, and get a job making more money but people are lazy and don't want to put in the effort. It is easier to complain and try to strike and get $15 per hour. Fast food workers aren't worth it and never will be.

underdog2

Posted 6:29 am, 06/08/2014

Busy fast food restaurants take in over 50K a week. The only ones getting rich on the backs of the workers are the owners.

Walks the Talk

Posted 12:27 am, 06/08/2014

fiesta, I am not complaining. Just stating how I feel. Geez.
Everyone is just bypassing the dilemma here. Susie works at McDonalds. She IS working. But she cannot meet her needs on the pay she gets. So she has to apply for gov help. And that means others are having to help support her. Imagine what THAT costs. Susie learns she can get more gov help/money by NOT working. And gov-our tax dollars- are running out.

fiesta pantalones

Posted 9:52 pm, 06/07/2014

Walks

If a person can earn you $400 million per year, what would you pay them to do it for you? Would they be worth $10 million, $50 million, heck, $200 million if they earned you $400 million? Absolutely! Is someone who earns you $10,000 per year worth as much as someone who earns you $400,000,000? Obviously not. Why complain about people earning what they are worth?

Walks the Talk

Posted 9:25 pm, 06/07/2014

cool/hot, I'm pretty sure that McDonalds (for example) can afford to pay the employees more. (The lazy ones can be fired.) Better and more economically efficient they get paid decently than having the 'gov' pay their way.
Amazing what a sports player makes for kicking or throwing or bouncing a ball around. Of course, people encourage those big bucks for sports and actors by watching them, going to games, etc.

gogetit4545

Posted 6:28 pm, 06/07/2014

MOM of two. Did I SAY anything about censoring you or anyone else? Even if I don't agree with you, YOU still have the right to say or write anything you want. This is still America! I also can agree or disagree with anyone!

Enough with the Yadkin County BS!! You are trying to spin a comment that was not in any way directed toward you. That will not work with me. It was directed toward the "Dog". I think and hope he or she knows the difference.

gogetit4545

Posted 6:05 pm, 06/07/2014

Looks like I struck a chord with a lot of folks! Believe it or not the "Dog" is not acting up in this one. I believe "Lighningcat" hit it on the head.

underdog2

Posted 2:20 pm, 06/07/2014

I guess you pay your roofers 7 bucks an hour too. Thats not hard work.

fiesta pantalones

Posted 12:49 pm, 06/07/2014

I did it for several years in high school. It isn't hard hot work. It is very easy work except for the fact that you have to stand and walk all day. Guess what though? That is what your body is made to do! I hate hearing people complain how hard it is to be on your feet all day. Unless you have a handicap then you are really just revealing your personal laziness.

The reason for high turnover is GENERALLY a low work ethic which is common for most people still working in fast food at middle age. They don't have the personal drive to grow or made stupid mistakes that they are still paying for (criminal records and things like that keeping them from a better job). When the McDonalds in Jonesville opened there were 150 employees. I lasted the longest out of the original 150. I was there for 1.5 years at that location. It wasn't hard work that ran off that other 149 first or the probably 250 others that passed through in that time. Some went on to better things and some were content to move to their next fast food job making minimum wage. There were a lot of druggies and a lot of people whose attitude was "I don't take s--- from no boss". They were paid what they were worth.

That said the majority of CEOs in this country had their first jobs in fast food and the vast majority of them at McDonalds. There are good life and career lessons that you learn there. It was a great first taxed job for me. It was and always should be a minimum wage job though. That is what it is worth.

underdog2

Posted 12:18 pm, 06/07/2014

Those people work harder in an hour than you would in a week stupid. Go walk in their shoes for one shift and see if you can make it. The reason for the turnover is its hard hot work and the employees are pushed to the brink by supervisors only wanting to move up and make a name for themselves.

coollittlehot

Posted 8:13 am, 06/07/2014

Even if a good employee works hard and deserves a raise, any job description in particular is only worth so much. If an employee is that good, a promotion is earned to a new position that is worth a little more cash. I absolutely cannot see the good sense in paying a fast food line cook or drive thru worker $15/hr for a $7 job.

Walks the Talk

Posted 2:39 am, 06/07/2014

There are so many if's and but's in discussing this. Assuming an employee at a fast food place--say, McDonald's--is working hard. Maybe has a family, or a single mom of 2 kids...whatever. With the low wage, it is not near enough to live on. so, they have to file for the 'freebies'. And THAT costs others. So, maybe if McDonalds paid more, maybe we would not be forced to supplement. ONE of THESE DAYS, the 'have's' are not gonna have it. THEN WHAT? Isn't it now 40% keeping 60% up? scary.

MY opinion: The military should be paid more than any other thing/people in the country.
If the country has no defense, you can forget about schools and everything else.

lightningkat

Posted 10:12 pm, 06/06/2014

My point being if they don't wanna do the work then why pay them more? Every time I turn around, we're having to replace somebody calling out. If we fire them, they file for ui benefits. And yet those that show up and do their job, are being paid the same wage as those that don't do crap. The only difference is the number of hours they're scheduled.

Actually, I wonder if you could set it up so that under 18 has one min wage and 18 + has a slightly higher min wage. Maybe look into apprenticeships and internships where folks accept a lower min wage in return for learning a trade

lightningkat

Posted 9:56 pm, 06/06/2014

I understand fast food workers bust their tails off or at least the good ones do. Those people deserve raises. But someof the workers don't even give a minimum amount ofeffort

Riff Raff

Posted 4:23 am, 06/06/2014

Underdog is always trying to take people's panties off? Couldn't that be like solicitation? Perv! Why don't give facts, add to the conversation, or go back and crawl under your cardboard box.

underdog2

Posted 5:44 pm, 06/05/2014

Hey cool want to take another shot at getting rid of the dog? Go take your panties off and put on some big boy pants.

coollittlehot

Posted 1:51 pm, 06/05/2014

Ohmygosh. Never mind.

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