yadkin

Panty boy your reputation as a liar is proven yet again. And I didn't even do deaths.
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Smalltownman

I have been shot with BB guns many times before. From about 12 inches away it feels like a bee sting. 30 or 40 feet away and it feels like a thump (and yes it does hurt to get hit in the kahunas).

I agree that if it hit something in the eye at close range you have some danger there but I doubt any jury would think it would pass the test of "imminent threat of death or great bodily harm", especially since it isn't even the op being shot at, it is his dog.

I also agree it is cruel to shot an animal with one especially since it can't understand what is happening. It certainly doesn't rise to the category of warranting deadly force like the op clearly threatened.

This is pretty simple people. The use of deadly force (a shotgun would be considered deadly force) is allowed under law when you feel you are under "imminent threat of death or great bodily harm". It is extremely unlikely that you would ever find a judge or jury who would consider a child with a BB gun an imminent threat of death or great bodily harm. If the op thought the kid had a real gun that might be different but we all know that isn't the case here. Therefore by the laws and standards set by our society the use of deadly force would be illegal in this situation. Even if the laws weren't in place it would still be morally wrong.

I disagree. A BB gun CAN cause bodily harm. Let someone shoot you in the kahunas, the eyes, or ear and tell me how physically unharmed you feel.

That is a stupid argument and clearly not what the op was trying to communicate. He is considering using deadly force.

Care to try again?

And actually if this is really a retired police (that makes no difference anyway) that was brought up way after my first response and since over half the posts on this thread are either from me or direct to me, this thread is clearly about a psycho threatening to use deadly force on a child when it isn't called for.

You will never be able to make a valuable contribution to the discussion if you can't keep up with the topic.

You are such a moron. Please go check your sugar and learn reading comprehension. Now when you do both you arrogant a-hole read the next paragraph.

The op could very well be sending a message were you to comprehend his post that the child could have been mistaken pointing the gun at any homeowner and got his little self killed. As I have stated before no judge would or could consider what the op said as a threat. Furthermore the kid could return the next day or day after with a real loaded gun and kill you while you are thinking its a bb gun.

" If the op thought the kid had a real gun that might be different but we all know that isn't the case here. Therefore by the laws and standards set by our society the use of deadly force would be illegal in this situation. Even if the laws weren't in place it would still be morally wrong."

The cop thought the kid had a real gun. The op knows he doesn't. If the kid did and shot the dog with it then the dog would be dead, not just harassed.

Care to try again?

You again panty boy try and spin, crawl, confuse the masses on the two original posts by you and the op. You have jumped on this thread after swearing you were done with all of us like you were too intelligent but more like too hard headed to read what something really says.

I hate to drop down to your level and offer you one recent example of children and guns. Given there are plenty of examples this one is recent. The police officer that killed the 12 year old that pointed the fake gun at him. The officer was of course found to be justified.

This same turn of events could be a warning by op as to what could happen were he to come out and a gun pointed at him be it fake, bb, or real.

Bottom line to this discussion and schooling is we are talking about a retired police dog being shot at, not the comparison of children to dogs or animals. If you are unable to comprehend this then feel free to continue to show your arrogance and lack of intelligence panty boy.

Nature

When I said the child's life is more valuable than a dogs, it wasn't dragging a human comparison into the discussion to diminish the value of the dog, it was because the op was threatening a child.

This is pretty simple people. The use of deadly force (a shotgun would be considered deadly force) is allowed under law when you feel you are under "imminent threat of death or great bodily harm". It is extremely unlikely that you would ever find a judge or jury who would consider a child with a BB gun an imminent threat of death or great bodily harm. If the op thought the kid had a real gun that might be different but we all know that isn't the case here. Therefore by the laws and standards set by our society the use of deadly force would be illegal in this situation. Even if the laws weren't in place it would still be morally wrong.

Furthermore we as a society have a gun problem. The problem isn't guns though. I know because I own several handguns, hunting rifles, shotguns, an ar15, etc. These guns have never harmed anyone in anyway. The problem is guns in the hands of those who shouldn't have them. That is why we have mass shootings in schools and such a high murder rate in this country. As a responsible gun owner, the ownership of guns by the irrational and irresponsible gives me great concern. It is people like the op who threaten children with guns that give ammo to those who want to take the guns from the responsible and are in fact a danger to society. He is a danger because if he truely does own a firearm and is already thinking about shooting a child with it, that is only one step away from carrying the act out.

As far as standards of conduct go, we expect different things from adults and children. That is why criminal records for children get sealed when they turn 18. The child is wrong here and needs to be corrected so he can be made to see the error in his actions. That is how you teach a child. My son at 5 stole a pack of mints from Old Navy. We found out and the next day I brought him back and made him tell them what he did and pay for them. That is correcting a child's actions and teaching them. That is what needs to happen here. An adult is already expected to know better. That is why even with a BB gun, an adult shooting back at a child is worse than the child who may just need to be taught better.

For all we know this could be the child of a single mom working two jobs to support the kid and she may not even know this is going on. That is why you go to the parents first and give them the chance to fix the problem. If that doesn't work go to the police second.

NO ONE IS EXCUSING THE CHILD FOR HIS ACTIONS HERE. What he is doing is wrong. You don't resolve that wrong with a greater wrong though.

Advocate, you are smart enough to see gopro chose his words carefully. No jury, no judge would consider it a threat. You can shoot your mouth would be an example. No where can you confirm that the op contacted the police.

You just inserted the value of a life again to which you nor I can place a value on a dogs, cats, or a childs life. Nature has already pointed this out clearly yet you feel compelled to do it again make the comparison of pets to children.

Before anyone asks, All of our female cats have been neutered and all the cats have been to the Vet, except for one wilder cat who came from a house up the road. He cannot be touched, but stays outdoors and practically guards the house and runs other stray cats off.

Our outdoor cats have a cathouse 16 feet by 12 feet in size and spend the nights in cages and are provided with a heat source in the winter. They basically never leave our yard when out during the day.

Here is the issue:

Gopro had already contacted the Yadkinville Police Dept and then he threatened physical violence on children as below: His exact words on here.

"Next time, you better hope the police round them up before I catch them because I have something that shoots too, and I will defend my own from assault. Might fill with salt pellets... might not."

Might not by the way means lead pellets in a shotgun.

I personally have 13 cats but no dogs and a couple of my neighbors dog show up every day to eat the left over cat food in my carport. I have never threatened to harm these dogs or even told my neighbors about this issue. As it is cold and the dogs are hungry.

I think that Gopro could possibly be charged with the communication of threats toward his neighbors

And yes children are more important than animals, but there are a lot of sorry parents who should not have children at all, who do not teach them to respect others or animals. Some of the gene pool in Yadkin Co. that should not have children are having the most off-spring lowering the caliber of our population pool.

underdog2, I have always appreciated where your heart is regarding animals. Recently, was talking with a stranger at local post office, and this was one rough looking character. He expressed his love for animals, and said some people call him "crazy" for that. I said, "If you are called "crazy" for caring about animals, then how wonderful to be called "crazy"." Anyway, I sure hope that op's dog(s) will be okay. If he needs help staking out and watching, I will be glad to help.

Nature no longer than I have been gracing this site I have seen panty boy show his non existent compassion for any animal numerous times. The story by the op is not made up. Yadkindog all but confirmed the story was true and the dog was a retired police dog and this says yadkindog knows the op. The street names at the top of the page are not too hard to figure out this took place in Yadkinville. Its also very obvious its children or teens that were shooting the dog and they live close by. Its a fact that only 2 posters cant seem to grasp the seriousness of the acts and the non action of the law. The op has more information he has not shared in this matter.

There are a couple posters who have twisted everything around regarding the words of the original poster.
I am on the side of the original poster. And Yes, I am intelligent. And NO, I am not an escaped inmate.
Every time someone shows compassion and care for an animal, there will be some who instantly drag humans into it to compare. I am proud to say that I have compassion for humans and animals.
And underdog2, you are correct. I have my opinions, beliefs, like others have theirs, and do not appreciate being called an escaped inmate.

Advocatefortruth

Dog, In contrast to what you seem to believe without knowledge of the situation. The Yadkin County Sheriff's Dept is doing a much better job since the ouster of our former Sheriff. I plan to start trashing Ashe County the way you trash Yadkin, Boondoggie smart in some areas, but as dense as a rock in others.

Advocate, you are welcome to join us on goashe. Let me let you in on a little secret. I feel the same about the ashe county barneys as any of them. I dont discriminate. I think they all are a gang of chest thumping arrogant thugs with a complex hiding behind a gun and a badge. The recent election was a joke with the candidate that ran against our sitting sheriff.

You and panty boy have the right to your opinion and the rest of us have the right to show you and panty boy how wrong you are. Panty boy was beat down like a worn out dish rag.

Advocate

I know. That is why I have said what needed to be said and am walking away from it. The supporters of this guy are just like the man in Ferguson shouting "burn this ***** down" from the car top. They are inciting this guy by their support and if he follows through on his threats to shoot a child, part of the blame will be on his encouragers. I have done all I could do.

Dog,

In contrast to what you seem to believe without knowledge of the situation. The Yadkin County Sheriff's Dept is doing a much better job since the ouster of our former Sheriff.

I plan to start trashing Ashe County the way you trash Yadkin, Boondoggie smart in some areas, but as dense as a rock in others.

Hispanic Party Pants,

Should know by now, that when you post on this website that you will always be wrong, wrong, there are simply too many nay sayers on here who twist things around to suit themselves.

I still believe that the poster who started this thread is Psychopathic, being supported by fellow escaped inmates

Animal Control has been transferred to the Sheriffs office. They handle animal calls now. They have 2 brand new F-150 Trucks to use for this.